In this episode of NDO Podcast we’re at Lonetree Wildlife Management Area visiting with Blake Schaan, wildlife resource management supervisor, about this unique WMA and the rest of his district, the first of several episodes highlighting the department’s seven wildlife resource districts.
Cayla: Welcome to episode 100 of the NDO podcast, The Big 100. I forgot to tell Blake that, so yeah, kind of a big deal. You're on 100th episode. Yeah. This will be the start of we're gonna make a run at all the different wildlife resource management districts. Talk to the district managers about WMAs unique to their area. So we're starting with Blake Schaan district two wildlife Resource Management supervisor. So for, I feel like the one that people would be most familiar with is the one we're at here at Lonetree district. But yeah, thanks for being on.
Blake: Yeah. You're welcome.
Casey: We had Kent on and he kind of, at one time, and kind of explained in general what you guys do as district managers on the landscape, but we really wanted to get around to each district and kind of talk about the uniqueness of the districts. And yeah, I mean, yours even has some other history in it just because of how Lonetree came about.
Blake: Right. Yeah.
Casey: So I don't know, maybe start with Lonetree.
Blake: Sure. So yeah, this July will be the completion of my 12th year here.
Casey: Gosh, that long already?
Blake: Yeah. Started July of ‘14. So yeah, Lonetree came to be, it was intended, first of all, to be a regulatory reservoir connecting the McClusky Canal to the New Rockford Canal and was going to be an irrigation project. Then in 1986, it was deauthorized, that project was deauthorized and it was reauthorized as a wildlife area.
Cayla: Is that because Devils Lake started to flood or no?
Casey: Yeah. So part of that project was to take water to Devils Lake.
Blake: Correct.
Casey: From Sakakawea.
Blake: Yeah. Eventually, the Missouri River water would have made it into the Sheyenne. And then on to the Red. Yep. Which ultimately became the demise of the project because the Canadian government did not want our Missouri River water up in Canada. And that's so yeah, instead of catching walleyes here, we're hunting deer and upland birds etcetera. So, yeah, we're the managing partner. The Bureau of Reclamation owns the property and we've been the managers, the North Dakota Game and Fish has since January of 97 and so yeah, here we are.
Casey: So how big is Lonetree?
Blake: It is 33,000 acres.
Casey: Yeah. And I think that's our biggest. Is that the contiguous one, WMA right?
Blake: Yes. It's still the biggest by about 2X.
Casey: Yeah. And I think so like, you know, in the past there's been a lot of for those people that haven't been out here, there's been a lot of block tree plantings done here. A lot of grass seeding some tall grass prairie stuff. Seedings. Yeah. Walk us through. Kind of.
Blake: Sure.
Casey: The whole footprint of Lonetree as what it looks.
Blake: Sure. Yeah. So in those early years was obviously the development phase. Kind of really starting in 1989. The first storage building went up here at headquarters and they were seeding grass and planting trees and doing weed control day in and day out for many years. And so, now we're left with, of course, native prairie. And then a lot of planted natives, still some tame grasses out there, although it's mostly either natives or planted natives. Our DNC, you know, from the old traditional, now we're transitioning into more of a native tame mix kind of a more robust, diverse, dense nesting cover out there. So those are the three main cover types other than the woodlands that were planted.
Casey: Yeah. And so we also there's a refuge in the middle of our WMA.
Blake: Yes.
Casey: What is it called? Coal Mine Lake
Blake: Coal Mine Lake, but the refuge is Sheyenne Lake Refuge, I believe it's a leased refuge.
Casey: Yeah. But it's basically just the water.
Blake: It is west of the Crossover Road, we call it. So about halfway between here and State Highway 14. There it begins to include just a little bit of upland.
Casey: And the Sheyenne kind of trickles through the whole thing.
Blake: It does. Yeah. Lonetree is the headwaters of the Sheyenne River. And so, Lonetree goes from two miles west of highway 3, west ten miles west of highway 14, about 20 miles long.
Casey: Do you know why it's called Lonetree? They obviously planted more than one lone tree.
Casey: It was a lone when they got it maybe.
Blake: I know when I started, we cut down one big lone tree that was harboring raptors so maybe I.
Cayla: Cut down the namesake.
Casey: Cut down the lone tree.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: But this one's kind of. I mean, it's been a spot that deer hunters come to. There's a lot of deer hunting that goes on here, whether it's archery or.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: Or rifle when there's tags.
Blake: Yeah. Very popular spot for whitetail deer hunters. Upland game hunters for grouse, partridge and pheasants as well. The occasional mule deer primarily on the western fringes of Lonetree, where they have a little more habitat that they like. And a spot that's frequented by moose hunters who are lucky enough to draw tags.
Casey: We were talking about that on the way up.
Blake: Yeah, yeah.
Casey: The so obviously when you manage a piece of this big, you can manage it for multiple species. But like maybe go into so we, what are you doing annually on lone tree.
Blake: You know, other than, than maintenance and mundane tasks, the big ticket items are prescribed fire for about a month in the spring time, the month of May is a big one if the weather allows and we do some haying about 1,500 acres a year and then we graze right around 2,800 acres a year.
Casey: And most of that grazing has been incorporated since you got here, right.
Blake: Yeah. We really started a lot more in 2017. Yeah. But our goals there are just to increase diversity and kind of rejuvenate the grasslands, reset succession for the species that are there, upland game, whitetail deer, etc.
Casey: I think that's something that people don't think about sometimes that like grasslands are early succession essentially. And so, if there isn't management on it, they go into.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: Something in a later successional stage.
Blake: Yeah. Yeah. Here on these soils in these counties, it's a lot of Russian olive encroachment as well as elm tree. If it's gone too far for way too long, we see a lot of snowberry and buckbrush type. So yeah, we're trying to reset that with fire, grazing and haying.
Casey: Do you have to do anything to like the tree plantings or the woody cover to manage it as of now or do you guys ever add plantings or.
Blake: We've added some just near food plots where we feel like they ought to have more winter cover if we're going to attract them to eat there. But the development stage during that, they did a superb job of creating and planting enough winter cover. Yeah.
Casey: So tell us how big your district is as far. What do you got? Is it three counties? How many counties you got four.
Blake: Four counties. Yeah, from west to east Sheridan, Wells and then Eddy and Foster stacked.
Casey: Yep. You've got a slightly smaller district, but.
Blake: It is.
Casey: Big WMA in the middle of it.
Blake: Yeah. Outside of Lonetree, there's another 10,000 acres. And those WMAs are anywhere from 40 to 1,400 acres and everywhere in between.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: Yeah. We graze on average district wide, about 4,800 acres out of that 42,000, which is about 11%.
Casey: So like your other, the other WMAs that you have, how do they, besides the fact that they're not right in your own backyard?
Cayla: Is 40 acres our smallest. Do you have the smallest and the largest?
Casey: We have a five-acre one that's just access to the Red River.
Cayla: Gotcha.
Casey: Kulwicki. But how does the management differ on your other WMAs?
Blake: Differs in that the habitat types are not as diverse. Obviously, we're not covering as large of an area to be all inclusive. So some are primarily open grasslands, whether it's rolling hills or flat. Some are mostly woodland, very few. And so, we need cooperators out on the landscape that know the area. They know the soil types, they even know how those grasses respond to different water regimes based on the rainfall that year. So they're really key to us getting active management on the ground. And the paradox there is, you know, we're trying to create the best habitat we can and maintain it for attracting, keeping, holding, growing wildlife populations for public enjoyment. But balancing that with public use you know, we have to be cognizant of that, but without that active management, there wouldn't be as much desire for public use.
Casey: Right.
Blake: The habitat wouldn't be quality.
Casey: And some of them were not. I mean, some of them obviously like a 40-acre piece. You can't manage for all species.
Blake: Correct.
Casey: You're gonna just manage for and maybe the cover type in itself kind of dictates how you do that. Like if it was native prairie to begin with.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: It's hard to manage native prairie, to stay native prairie and raise a lot of pheasants on it.
Blake: Correct.
Casey: You can do some, but it's not gonna be like a big tall CRP planting that had a lot of pheasants in it.
Blake: Yeah. We try and work with what nature already tells us works best. Yeah. And our grazing is mostly done on true native prairie. Because it just, it responds better. We can't hay it typically it's too rough or just inaccessible and it's too dangerous to burn. So we typically that's what we focus our grazing efforts on.
Casey: How many like we have some of these WMAs that are like fishing WMAs, I can't remember you've got what Lake Washington is one that's got a pretty good fishing on it as well. But that one's got pretty good upland acres on it too.
Blake: And whitetail habitat. That one is my favorite just because of its uniqueness. Almost solid oak trees around a beautiful lake filled with walleyes and perch.
Cayla: Yeah.
Casey: Let that slip.
Cayla: Yeah. Notes.
Blake: And it has a concrete boat ramp there. Nice parking area.
Casey: The concrete boat ramp is not that old, is it?
Blake: No. Man. Five years maybe. And so. Yeah. And you can break through to the outskirts and you have a lot of good upland game hunting. And that's got native prairie and planted natives. And planted trees and native trees.
Cayla: So do you have any new acquisitions in this district and or like big projects like the one we just came from like a big.
Casey: Yeah. The newest one would be the one south here, right?
Blake: Yeah. There's two that came on board. Schwartz Wildlife Management Area just to the southeast. And then Sprynczynatyk Wildlife Management area south of Denhoff about a mile.
Cayla: Okay.
Blake: The latter is about 480 acres. And that's been our ongoing project to get that into shape for us to be able to effectively manage it.
Casey: Yeah. What was the Spryncznatyk one about 6 or 7 years ago now?
Blake: It was actually four.
Casey: Four is all?
Blake: Yep.
Casey: Seems longer ago than that.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: Took a while.
Casey: Usually, the other way around.
Casey: I know, usually, yeah.
Blake: Right.
Casey: And so that one had some things on it. Like there was some existing contracts on it, CRP on it. That before we could change management or manage it more intensively, we had to negotiate around and wait till the contracts came due.
Blake: But yeah. And we work with the Fish and Wildlife Service. We pass some things by them before we can get it done. But yeah, I will say too that you know, the partnerships in addition to cooperators, which is a partnership in itself, but agency to agency, I mean, there's a lot of work to get grass seeded or you know, I should mention a big project on Lonetree has been breaking up a couple hundred acres a year of dense and nesting cover that's over 20 years old. And we've tried many different methods. The best one has been we farm it for 4 to 5 years. Leave some for a food plot for the winter. But after five years, we reseed that to a diverse, dense nesting cover. But there's another example of partnership in addition to, you know, making wetlands better through contractors, etc.
Cayla: I don't know, maybe this was like mostly before you, but I just know that like Scott Peterson had talked about how much people were kind of against Lonetree and then you know, just how much they've really like, come on board and it's kind of like a community, I'm sure. I mean, it's a pretty nice area to have in people's backyards.
Blake: Yeah. It gets a lot of use during the season. This time of year, people are out hiking, fishing, bird watching. There's a ton of fruit, berries, etc. as long as it's not commercial, folks are encouraged to come and fill a bucket and take it home. Food plots too is another item I didn't mention as far as management's concerned, and we have about 540 acres of food plots, and the average size of a food plot is about 17 acres, and they're placed in 31 different locations.
Cayla: Just on Lonetree?
Blake: Yeah.
Cayla: Okay. Yeah.
Casey: Doesn't seem like a whole lot of food plots, really, considering 33,000 acres.
Blake: True. Yeah. We...
Casey: It always seems more than that. It always seems like there's a food plot around every, you know, like, you come out here and hunt or something. It's like there's food plot, there's a food plot.
Blake: Yeah. They're good to have. I mean, not just for the sportsmen, but it also keeps the deer off the neighbor's haystacks, too.
Casey: Yeah, that's probably how the food plots got most of their start.
Blake: Absolutely.
Casey: And we had the winter cover that was coming on with the tree plantings that happened right away.
Blake: Absolutely. Yeah.
Casey: You've been doing some different things with food PLOTS too. It's not just necessarily the same old corn, whatever. It's like we've been trying some interesting stuff and maybe.
Blake: Yeah. Instead of corn, sunflowers and alternating those annually. Which was good for the time, but it really did start to deplete soil because those are high use crops. And so, now we've incorporated actually mostly cover crops. We still do 100 acres of corn and then we do some small grains and some legumes or brassica plantings.
Casey: Yep.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: Have you noticed a shift in wildlife use or anything in some of those?
Blake: We have. I mean, it used to be mostly deer targeting those food plots. Of course, the occasional moose. We do have elk pass through, but there are a lot more upland game birds utilizing them right alongside of big game.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: Yeah. So definitely a shift.
Casey: One of the things that I've always noticed with, especially the way we do cover crops, we're doing them year like year long, like growing season long, you know, lot like, well, but you guys are doing them growing season long. You're planting them in the spring.
Blake: Correct.
Casey: Leaving them all year where a lot of people think of cover crops as like they've harvested the wheat off and now they go put a cover crop in, but you get there's such a insect flush in those typically. Yeah. Like man, you'll see broods and stuff just all over those deals.
Blake: Yeah. They know there's protein in there. It's really helped with soil health, too, for the high use crops that do follow the cover crops. It seems to be an added we don't really use fertilizer on those ones at all. We just don't need it.
Casey: So do have you done many food plots on any of the other WMAs or Lonetree pretty much takes the cake for your time and energy when it comes to food plots.
Blake: It does. And a big reason why is the ag industry has changed such that there aren't any cooperators out there with equipment small enough to even do a food plot for us.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: It just doesn't make any sense.
Casey: And like you said, a lot of your WMAs outside of Lonetree have native prairie and stuff on them you typically don't break the sod if it's never been broke out of.
Blake: Well, my district has 29 WMAs including Lonetree, so out of the 28 outside, I could only think of maybe two that would have a site suitable for a food plot, including winter cover next door.
Casey: Right.
Cayla: How often do you feel like you get around the entire WMA? I just feel like it. I don't know, it'd be so hard to, like, drive through every day and be like, oh, we should, we should spray that. We should plant that to that. We need that one needs burn. But it's like, so ten years from now, I can get to that because I don't know, it's just so big.
Blake: Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what attracted me to the field in the first place. Is just that. Some days I don't go for a drive because I know I'll get so many ideas, so I have.
Casey: Idea overload.
Blake: Yeah. I have to keep to a minimum. I take my notes and then it's like, okay, now just don't look outside until you get this list done. So yeah, no, that's a good point. And there's a lot of eyes and ears out here. And there's just endless opportunities to improve and enhance.
Casey: And speaking of that, how many folks are helping you here on the WMA? Maybe explain to people what we've got out here as far as employees.
Blake: Sure. There are five full-time staff. So two biologists, including myself. There's a private lands biologist, and there's two full-time wildlife technicians. And then during the summer months, we hire 2 to 3 college students going into the field as well as we host a dove bander.
Casey: Okay.
Blake: And that's hired through the migratory game section.
Cayla: We're kind of in like a classroomish, does it like, do a lot of groups come out here or like local?
Blake: Yeah, not as much as those early two decades, but I host a lot of elementary classes from like the Anamoose, Fessenden, McClusky, Harvey areas will come by and I'll do some presentation, and then we'll go to the library where there's touch and feel for critters, furs, etc. so yeah. And they it was kind of, it's kind of a gem. They, you know, one teacher will tell another pretty soon.
Cayla: Yeah. I'm like, then you're on the annual schedule.
Blake: Yeah. April and May it's like...
Casey: Third graders from Anamoose are coming every year.
Blake: Yeah. But it's fun. I'm glad that they take advantage of it because yeah, we're right here. We got the resource and.
Casey: Lonetree has always been kind of a neat, like it's just kind of wide-open area habitat.
Cayla: It also feels like I want, like, how busy is it in the fall? Because it feels like you could, no matter how busy you could find a spot I feel like almost.
Casey: Depends on the day when I come up here and squirrel hunt in February there's nobody here.
Blake: Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah.
Casey: Depends what you wanna do.
Blake: As long as you don't come The first four days of deer gun.
Cayla: Okay.
Blake: You can find a spot to yourself.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: Even opener of pheasant.
Cayla: Right.
Blake: It's busy but.
Cayla: There's just so much.
Blake: There's something that hasn't been touched.
Casey: Yeah. Opening of grouse season used to be a big one here for a while.
Blake: Yeah. And I have noticed a shift there with a lot more grouse west of highway 14 in those rolling prairies, the mid-to-short grass prairie. And a lot more use since we did incorporate grazing. Anecdotally there is a lot more activity it seems like because there, those chicks are able to get around and they're not on like a queen mattress trying to walk around on the bluegrass.
Casey: Really soft one. Yeah. Right. I know there's one time I came up here and grouse hunted a little bit and I think it was Randy that had driven by my vehicle, and I stopped in the office after I was done. And Randy was like, yeah, there were four grouse standing behind your pickup. I was like, I know I saw him as soon as I put my gun in the pickup and shut the door, and they got up and flew away. I was like, I had walked like a whole quarter in and then they were standing right behind the pickup.
Blake: But yeah, yeah.
Casey: Yeah, cool place to just get out and walk around.
Blake: Yeah.
Cayla: Are there like hiking trails or trails of any kind?
Blake: Just the North Country Trail does traverse through Lonetree from west to east. Yeah.
Cayla: Okay.
Casey: Yeah. It's just to make your own trail. Blaze your own trail.
Blake: Or there's that. Yeah, I did that actually, yesterday the kids were swimming in Coal Mine.
Casey: Were they?
Blake: And I went into a tree planting that I hadn't been in since I was a seasonal in 2004.
Casey: Yeah.
Cayla: That's the thing. I feel like you could like to cover this whole thing. It'd be different. Haven't been here since.
Blake: It's so different, but it was so cool to see. And there was a lot of ticks in there.
Casey: Yeah.
Cayla: You can confirm. Yeah, yeah.
Casey: Yeah, I bet.
Blake: Yeah.
Cayla: That's the thing about blazing your own trail.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: I didn't talk about our primitive campgrounds. There are three of them. One's about eight miles west of headquarters. Jensen Campgrounds right by highway 14 on the west side. And then there's Coal Mine that's two miles west of headquarters as the crow flies. And then three miles south southeast of here, there's Fall Campground. So they all have vault toilets. Plenty of green for, you know, campers or tents. There is no electricity, but they all have fire pits.
Casey: There's no water in them either, is there?
Blake: Just pump jack wells.
Casey: Okay. I can't remember if they had it.
Blake: There listed as not potable, mostly because we just don't test them every year. If they are or not, I don't know. Air on the side of safety. But a lot of folks, you know, give it to the dog or something needs a drink. So. And two of them actually have horse corrals for.
Casey: Yeah. I was gonna say, do you get much horse activity anymore?
Blake: We do. There's a couple of clubs nearby and some that just want to go for a ride. And we certainly encourage that and welcome that. And we have some nice corrals at Coal Mine Campground and at Fall Campground. Those are kept up and gates, some are, they both have cells in case you need to separate horse for from one group from another.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: So do you got any big projects you got planned that you got to get together on any of these WMAs?
Blake: Right now, as it stands, we finished some water infrastructure, some boundary fencing.
Casey: That's another challenge of trying to graze.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: Some of these pieces have been either acquired by somebody giving them to us or like Lonetree or the Bureau and it wasn't developed for any of that stuff.
Blake: Right. So a lot has been accomplished. So we're kind of in more maintenance again. But we just completed some of those developmental things, in fact, this spring.
Casey: Okay. So see, I know the biggest thing is probably that revamping some of those old, planted grasslands that.
Blake: And that is turning out nicely. In fact, if you drive south again look through the trees or even walk out, that one was just planted in ‘22.
Casey: Right south of the off. Yeah, right outside the office here?
Blake: South of the T Intersection. It's awesome. We hayed for the first time last year it was idle for three years, but it's really looking good.
Casey: Cool.
Cayla: Do you have seasonals on? Yet?
Blake: Yeah.
Cayla: What are they up to today?
Blake: They actually added a cell at a campground horse corral.
Cayla: Oh, nice.
Blake: And added a couple gates and they were going to fix fence, but we decided it was a little too hot for that.
Casey: Yeah, it's getting hot early this year.
Blake: We got one running parts and a couple in tractors going after food plots so.
Cayla: Do they have their own housing here? I forget, I haven't been here. Okay. Yeah.
Casey: Bunkhouse here in the shop.
Blake: Yeah. The bunkhouse is above the shop.
Cayla: Okay.
Blake: It's an upstairs apartment like setting.
Casey: This is one of the only districts where we have housing. So you. You and your family live right on the complex here.
Blake: Yeah. Yeah. It was
Casey: It was set up that way from the bureau.
Blake: Yeah. For security. We're out in the sticks, and there's a lot going on out here and yeah, but it's been great. The neighbors in the area are just phenomenal. I mean, it's just a big country family. And it's a really nice setting to live at.
Cayla: Yeah. Is there a lot of shenanigans going on?
Blake: Not lately no. Not for many years.
Casey: It was even graduation weekend and nothing.
Blake: Yeah. Once Peterson left, I think.
Cayla: Yeah. So maybe it was him all along. Yeah. I'll have to tell him.
Blake: Yeah. Yeah.
Casey: So there are some roads on Lonetree. Are most of those township and like the gravel roads, they're all township and county roads.
Blake: They are all township and county except minimum maintenance ones and prairie trails are ours to maintain. Because the deal was made that way, if we ever did have issues where we had to close them, right, we could just do that, although that has never been done to date.
Casey: Yeah. So it's 33,000 acres, but it's 33,000 very accessible acres on Lonetree.
Blake: Very accessible. Some would argue too accessible, but some of those halfway into the section trails were closed. Not to take away opportunity rather to give it.
Casey: Right.
Blake: And then you know those acres also there's a lot of water. With the Coal Mine Lake and Sheyenne River too.
Blake: Yeah. About 4 to 5 miles north to south and it stretches 20 miles east to west.
Casey: That would have been a big lake.
Blake: Yeah.
Cayla: Yeah. No kidding.
Blake: Yeah. They had some uplands planned, but most of it would have been flooded.
Casey: I like fishing, but I like eating grouse better.
Blake: Yeah. These days with.
Cayla: Oh, I like fish. The taste of fish better. I think I might like hunting grouse.
Blake: Yeah, luckily, these days there's a lot of small fishing lakes within ten, 20 miles.
Casey: Yeah.
Cayla: The best of both.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: Another big project that didn't come to completion that we benefited from on the side.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: We'll take it.
Blake: Yeah.
Casey: It's been a good WMA.
Blake: Definitely. Yeah. There's something to do year-round.
Casey: Yeah. Cool.
Blake: Yeah. One fact I want to bring up is a lot more river otters showing up.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: On the Sheyenne and definitely within the WMA just really neat critter.
Cayla: Is this where we had that trail cam or no?
Blake: Yes.
Cayla: Okay. Yeah. People loved otter spotter on social.
Casey: Yeah.
Cayla: Yeah. We gotta bring it back.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: Right west of the highway 14 bridge yep.
Cayla: That was fun.
Casey: Yeah.
Cayla: Yeah. Thanks for being on.
Casey: Yeah.
Blake: Yeah. You're welcome thanks for having me.
Casey: On short notice.
Cayla: Yeah, I know. Yep.
Casey: Sounds good.
Cayla: All right we'll get into the department droppings. So 4th of July is approaching, our wardens will be involved in Operation Dry Water, which is some increased boating under the influence enforcement. But yeah, just make sure everyone's being safe wearing life jackets and doing the right thing over the fourth.
Casey: Yeah. And we've got some WMAs where we have camping restrictions for what is it, Tuesdays and Wednesdays. But over the 4th of July weekend, we'll be lifting those. So you can go online and see what those are. If you're interested.
Cayla: And no fireworks. You ever have fireworks here?
Casey: No fireworks on WMAs.
Cayla: Is this is a big 4th of July camping?
Blake: No, they're not allowed in our campgrounds.
Cayla: Okay.
Blake: We don't have any issues.
Casey: Not much of a lake kind of 4th of July destination, maybe but.
Blake: No definitely, unless you want to get away from the crowd, right?
Cayla: Casey will be out there.
Casey: Maybe catching pike over there.
Blake: Yeah.
Cayla: Yeah. And then reminder we brought Fish Challenge back so open now through August 15th this year you have to catch 100 fish, any kind, any size. But yeah, just see if you can get to 100 by August 15th.
Casey: I won't catch 100 by 15th that's a challenge.
Cayla: I gotta make some lunch breaks out to the OWLS pond.
Casey: Yeah. There you go.
Cayla: Yeah.
Casey: All right now that we've dropped the droppings, you can get off the pot and get outdoors.